Comment Without reading Bengali it's effectively impossible to find more sources as the subject has the same name as a former Pakistani president. However as a two star admiral I’d expect him to be a GNG pass. Mccapra (talk) 00:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I am missing something, there is no subject-specific notability guideline to that effect. His position does not necessarily guarantee coverage, and whose name he may share isn't a good reason to toss GNG to the wind. Garsh (talk) 02:35, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Some will argue that because we have an article about the admiral who heads the US Coast Guard, we should have an article about the admiral who heads the Bangladesh Coast Guard. The latter may be as worthy an individual and as deserving of notice as the former, but the reason we have notability guidelines is so that we can write a whole, fair, and balanced article. For whatever reason, Ziaul Hoque has not been written about in any depth in reliable, independent sources (even in Bengali). It is not acceptable for an article to be based entirely on government press releases (which are one-sided), and self-published sources that have no reputation for accuracy or fact checking. Those are the only sources available about Ziaul Hoque, so we should not have a stand alone article about him. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per Worldbruce. A biography based on primary and non-independent sources is not NPOV, so until sources are found that make neutrality possible the article should not exist. JoelleJay (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I have no knowledge of this subject, but I suspect an admiral possesses a smidgen of notability. Maybe one of the Wikipedia editors from Bangladesh can pitch in to help? Doha Dear (talk) 00:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The subject of this article may well be notable but it is largely incomprehensible owing to very poor English. I understand AfD is not for cleanup but I think we’re in TNT territory with this article. Mccapra (talk) 20:39, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'd like to remind participants that we are not here to discuss the quality of the contents of the article, but the notability of its topic. The ever-popular WP:TNT essay is not a policy-supported reason for deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen×☎21:58, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Most of the sources are neither reliable nor independent. They are full of primary sources written by the subject or from unreliable blogs. Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There's enough here to show GNG. She's written a book that Martin van Beynen has called "bestselling". It created a lot of publicity, for example, John Campbell interviewed her for 10 min on Radio New Zealand. She gets keynote speaking slots and, whilst that's nothing unusual, it is unusual when Stuff reports on that. She's been invited to give a talk at TEDxChristchurch and it takes quite something to get invited to TEDx. The pieces by Kurt Bayer (NZHerald; based in Christchurch), Eleanor Black (Stuff), and Now to Love (which belongs to Are Media) go into plenty enough depth to fulfil the criteria of three independent reliable sources. And all those sources are in the article already. All up, that's an easy keep. Schwede6604:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Waikato Times piece is a promotional piece for the business awards. The Now to Love piece is just her interview with Women's Daily. The other Stuff piece is also a promotional piece.
There is a lot of media coverage but it is promotional/non-independent.
Refs 1-4 are Tarawa herself, they shouldn't be used in the article except in limited aboutself uses, let alone go to notability.
Ref 5, supplied piece from the festival she appeared at.
Ref 6, women's day interview
Ref 7 is about Cooper's conviction and just drops a promotion for her book in it... which is odd. Bit of coverage here but not much and it is still in relation to Gloriavale.
Ref 8 same coverage but more blatantly promotional this time
Refs 9 and 10 have the exact same wording as refs 7 and 8 which makes me believe this is some promotional thing sent out to papers, that or they just simply copied the Herald, either way the refs adds nothing to notability.
Ref 11 is a promotional piece.
Ref 12 is a promotional interview
Ref 13 is an interview
Ref 14 is another interview that involves promoting the book
Refs 15-16 are reprints of Herald refs mentioned earlier
Ref 17 uses same wording as the other promotional pieces
Ref 18 is a promotional interview
Ref 19 is a promotional interview from women's day and the same ref as 6.
Ref 20 isn't promotional or an interview but very brief coverage (3 lines) as part of her grandfather's death
Ref 21 is an interview
Ref 22 is from Tarawa herself
Ref 23 is a promotional piece for the Matamata business awards
Ref 24 is a broken url but it is a very brief interview
Refs 25-27 are interviews
Ref 28 is promotional
Ref 29 opinion piece and it provides little coverage anyhow
Ref 30 is brief coverage of the book
Ref 31 is dead but appears to be a blog from an unreliable source
Ref 32 is about someone else's death
Ref 33 is the exact same as ref 32.
Ref 34 is the same as 9, 9 is presumably a reprint of it. Contains the exact same sentences used in the other promotional pieces
Ref 35 is about Gloriavale but suddenly just drops in the same promotional content about Tarawa's book seen before.
Ref 36 is a radio interview, not even an RS.
Ref 37 is a podcast interview.
Ref 38 is a promotional piece for some event she was invited to
Ref 39 is another piece on Gloriavale that just suddenly includes the same promotional content as else where, it is really odd and I cannot see a reason for it other than being sponsored/paid for it
So yes, there is a lot of media coverage, but little of it is independent, most of it is from the same source, and plenty of it is promotional. The fact that two identical articles are used as a reference right after each other just looks like COI/Paid editing with refbombing so it looks notable. The user who wrote most of this article is now blocked for copyvios but from looking at his contributions I think he may have been a paid editor. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lacks significant independent coverage and mostly relies on promotional content, particularly for Matrix Fight Night. The tone suggests potential paid editing, violating Wikipedia’s neutral point of view. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NPERSON. M S Hassan📬✍🏻19:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep I really don't understand why this article is being proposed for deletion. the article meets Wikipedia's criteria WP:GNG. Moreover, reliable media sources, which are verified by Wikipedia, have covered news about this person. Additionally, I did not find any sentence in the text that promotes Matrix Fight Night (There is just a Mention).Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 12:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The article does not qualify for a Speedy Keep. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen×☎21:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (with improvements) - appears potentially notable based on scale of the battle. Second source seems to be The Complete History which is a significant work. Probably needs some "according to" etc. given that we are inevitably dealing with historical accounts. Per WP:NONENG if any of the statements are controversial, some translated quotation of the original source(s) might be helpful. YFB¿17:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. Can't find any mention of this in reliable (English) secondary sources, so it's certainly not a major or noteworthy engagement. Ibn al-Athir (The Complete History) and al-Idrisi (quoted in text) are primary sources, so even if there's no WP:OR involved here (which I'm not confident about), its mere mention in primary sources, in the absence of any mentions in secondary sources, means it doesn't meet WP:GNG. Overall, it just looks like another pseudo-puffery piece squeezed out of an obscure historical military engagement. R Prazeres (talk) 19:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not easy to research this topic as most of the Arabic-language texts I can access e.g. via Google Books don't seem to support text selection (to check translation). However I found the following paper in the Algerian Historical Journal (for example) via a quick search for معركة سبيبة (Battle of Sebiba) https://www.asjp.cerist.dz/en/article/224926
I'm not sure how Ibn al-Athir can be considered a primary source in this context? He wasn't born until 95 years after this battle took place and he doesn't appear to have been directly connected to either of the combatant tribes. But IANA historian so perhaps I'm misunderstanding how this works. YFB¿20:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found a French translation of Ibn al-Athir which is a bit more accessible to me at least. There is a whole section devoted to this battle, the context and its aftermath so it does seem fairly significant. Quick Google translation below of an extract:
"Then the Riyâh' and the Zenâta all set out together, and on his side En-Naçir having advanced at the head of the Çanhȧdja, the Zenâta and the Benoû Hilal, the two armies met [ P. 31 ] near the town of Sebiba ( 1 ) . Following the charge which the Riyâh' and El-Moʻizz made respectively against the Benoû Hilal and the Zenâta, these last two groups fled, and the troops of En-Naçir imitated their example. The fugitives were pursued with swords at their backs, and twenty-four thousand Çanhâdja and Zenâta were massacred. El-K'ȧsim ben 'Alennâs (2) , brother of En-Nåçir, was also killed, but the latter himself was able to flee with a small number of his men. The Arabs thus became masters of a rich booty consisting of everything that belonged to the vanquished, money, weapons, horses, etc., the sharing of which was carried out as agreed. This affair completed the Arabs' complete mastery of the country; having arrived without resources, poor and having very few horses, they then found themselves rich, abundantly provided with weapons and mounts, in the presence of a country almost without defenders. They sent the standards, the drums, the tents of En-Nâçir and the horses they contained, to Temim, who sent them back to them, saying that it would be shameful for him to seize the spoils of his cousin. The Arabs greatly appreciated this act of generosity."
"La défaite de Sabîba (1065), qui fait au Magrib Central pendant à celle de Haydarân, constraint bientôt al-Nâsir d'abandonner la Qal'a pour Bougie, qu'il vient de fonder (1068-9). Vannée suivante, il conclut avec Tamïm une paix que lui et ses successeurs respecteront jusqu'à la mort de Tamïm (1108)."
This is another secondary source that ascribes significance to the event. Definitely enough for GNG in my view. The article needs a lot of work, I will see what I can do to bring it up to scratch if retained or moved to Draft space.
Thanks for looking. That last source (Baadj 2015) is the only one that gives me pause about notability, but it's still just one book, which doesn't fully solve the WP:GNG problem because you'd have to write most of the article from this single detailed source. (As for Ibn al-Athir and Idrisi, as asilvering notes below they are primary sources in the sense that they are medieval accounts from the same era, so they should be mediated by professional historians.) A quick reading of Baadj's account also makes it clear that this article, as is, would need to be completely re-written to even be understandable. I'd support draftifying at best, if there's a chance a competent editor would rewrite it, but WP:TNT otherwise. R Prazeres (talk) 05:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Happy with WP:TNT. I will write a new article using the above sources plus this one https://ixtheo.de/Record/792329171 which dedicates three sub-chapters (6 whole pages) to the battle, its aftermath and a comparison to the Battle of Haydaran which was part of the same conflict. @M.Bitton would you be content with moving to Draft space for me to do that? YFB¿21:49, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yummifruitbat well, he's a secondary source in the sense that he wasn't at the battle, but from the perspective of writing history, we don't want to be basing articles on what someone said several hundred years ago, with no interpretation by modern historians. -- asilvering (talk) 03:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A quick google search reveals that this term is used for many things, meaning I couldn't discern if it even deserved to be the primary topic. Intriguingly, most of the sources online were only mentioning it as if it were real, which compromises their usage. Regardless, this shoddy award doesn't meet the general notability guideline as it hasn't been covered by 3 reliable sources. Tavantius (talk) 16:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Finding sources is difficult due to common name, but various searches I did failed to find anything meeting WP:ORGCRIT. Sources on the current page also fall short. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: A declined PROD, not eligible for soft-deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen×☎21:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
Liu, Meina 刘美娜 (2014-02-08). "焦点人物 Hey,他是金大川!" [Focus Character Hey, he is Jin Dachuan!]. Beijing Times (in Chinese). p. E1014-1.
The article notes: "2014秋冬男装周上,金大川从米兰转战巴黎,一口气走完16场秀且场场大牌,Prada、LouisVuitton、Hermes、BottegaVeneta、JilSander……你能想到的大秀他都去了,美国著名老牌时装杂志《Women'sWearDaily》(《女性时装日报》)在秀后将他的照片搬上封面,而由国际媒体评选的2014秋冬米兰男装周“MostBellissimoBoysinMilan”,他也名列于此。红,似乎已经势不可挡。190cm的身高、清秀脸庞、细脸窄眼,这个两年前还跟大家一起在教室里参加全国高考的山东小伙如今已经成为全球最炙手可热的Supermodel。"
From Google Translate: "At the 2014 Fall/Winter Men's Fashion Week, Jin Dachuan moved from Milan to Paris and walked in 16 shows in one go, all of which were big brands, including Prada, Louis Vuitton, Hermes, Bottega Veneta, Jil Sander... He went to all the big shows you can think of. The famous American fashion magazine Women's Wear Daily put his photo on the cover after the show, and he was also listed in the "Most Bellissimo Boys in Milan" of the 2014 Fall/Winter Milan Men's Fashion Week selected by international media. Popularity seems to be unstoppable. With a height of 190cm, a delicate face, and narrow eyes, this Shandong boy who took the national college entrance examination in the classroom with everyone two years ago has now become the most popular supermodel in the world."
"奢侈品牌之宠 金大川胜张亮" [Jin Dachuan is more favored by luxury brands than Zhang Liang]. Want Daily [zh] (in Chinese). 2014-02-17. p. A15.
The article notes: "大陆人只要耳闻巴黎男装周,就会马上联想到《爸爸去哪儿》走红的模特儿张亮。事实上,同是中国面孔的男模金大川才是真正奢侈品牌的宠爱。据中奢网报导,金大川去年曾在2014春夏米兰男装周PRADA秀场一鸣惊人,这次的巴黎男装周上更是出尽锋头。"
From Google Translate: "When mainland Chinese hear about Paris Men's Fashion Week, they will immediately think of Zhang Liang, the model who became famous in "Where Are We Going, Dad?". In fact, Jin Dachuan, a male model with a Chinese face, is the real favorite of luxury brands. According to China Luxury Network, Jin Dachuan made a splash at the PRADA show at the 2014 Spring/Summer Milan Men's Fashion Week last year, and he was even more popular at this Paris Men's Fashion Week."
Wang, Yiming 王一鸣 (2016-11-18). "新型男代表 中国超模金大川" [New male representative: Chinese supermodel Jin Dachuan]. Lianhe Zaobao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-10-03. Retrieved 2024-10-03.
The article notes: "中国山东小伙金大川,是全球唯一受邀参加该摄影展的国际超模,自2013年以20岁之龄首次亮相米兰男装周后,数次在米兰、巴黎时装周上创下中国男模乃至亚洲男模的第一,成为国际时尚领域炙手可热的中国面孔,更成为GUCCI首位中国男模。"
From Google Translate: "中国山东小伙金大川,是全球唯一受邀参加该摄影展的国际超模,自2013年以20岁之龄首次亮相米兰男装周后,数次在米兰、巴黎时装周上创下中国男模乃至亚洲男模的第一,成为国际时尚领域炙手可热的中国面孔,更成为GUCCI首位中国男模。"
From Google Translate: "Jin Dachuan, a young man from Shandong, China, is the only international supermodel in the world invited to participate in the photography exhibition. Since his first appearance at the Milan Men's Fashion Week in 2013 at the age of 20, he has set the first place for Chinese male models and even Asian male models at the Milan and Paris Fashion Weeks several times, becoming a hot Chinese face in the international fashion field and the first Chinese male model of GUCCI."
"超模情侣金大川、项偞婧成微博热搜词 "一个93的,一个95的,恋爱正当时"" [Supermodel couple Jin Dachuan and Xiang Yanjing became a hot search term on Weibo: "One was born in 1993, the other was born in 1995, it's the right time for love"]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). 2015-03-18. p. B9.
The article notes: "出生年份:1993年金大川自从2013年走上米兰男装周Prada秀场成为Prada“独家模特”后,事业顺风顺水,乾净的面孔更为他招来了大量粉丝,在国内也火得一塌糊涂。2014年再战米兰更不负众望,首次亮相就以pitti uom o2场、米兰8场、巴黎6场演出的耀眼成绩,成为新生代男模中亚洲面孔的新焦点。今年伦敦2015秋冬男装周,金大川为Coach,Maharishi,Margaret Howell,RichardJames,KTZ,BurberryProrsum品牌走秀,俨然是一枚炙手可热的国际超模了。"
From Google Translate: "Year of Birth: 1993 Since Jin Dachuan became Prada's "exclusive model" at the Milan Men's Fashion Week in 2013, his career has been smooth sailing. His clean face has attracted a large number of fans and he has become very popular in China. In 2014, he returned to Milan and lived up to expectations. With his first appearance, he performed 2 shows in Pitti Uom O, 8 shows in Milan, and 6 shows in Paris, becoming the new focus of Asian faces among the new generation of male models. This year, at the London 2015 Autumn and Winter Men's Fashion Week, Jin Dachuan walked the runway for Coach, Maharishi, Margaret Howell, Richard James, KTZ, and Burberry Prorsum brands, and he is a hot international supermodel."
Wang, Yiming 王一鸣 (2014-07-04). "华人模特金大川 春夏男装周上大放异彩" [Chinese model Jin Dachuan shines at Spring/Summer Men's Fashion Week]. Lianhe Zaobao (in Chinese). p. 3 时尚.
The article notes: "在刚刚结束的2015春夏男装周上,金大川是出场次数最多的华人男模特,包括伦敦、米兰、巴黎等城市,他一共走了14场秀,远超赵磊、蔚方卿、李振和吕丕强等其他中国男模。而他所走的牌子也多是一线品牌,包括签约他独家走伦敦秀场的Burberry,以及米兰秀场的Gucci、Bottega Veneta,还有巴黎秀场的爱马仕等。"
From Google Translate: "In the just concluded 2015 Spring/Summer Men's Fashion Week, Jin Dachuan was the Chinese male model with the most appearances, including in London, Milan, Paris and other cities. He walked in a total of 14 shows, far exceeding other Chinese male models such as Zhao Lei, Wei Fangqing, Li Zhen and Lu Piqiang. And the brands he walked for were mostly first-tier brands, including Burberry, which signed him to walk exclusively in the London show, Gucci and Bottega Veneta in the Milan show, and Hermes in the Paris show."
There is no media coverage about him in Italian publications and no article on Italian Wikipedia. Entries in databases are not helpful to pass WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 20:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did WP:BEFORE and wasn't able to find anything about this except for one report [1]. The name comes up in a lot of different contexts but I wasn't able to pin down sources for this. There are external links on the article but they weren't much help. If anyone finds any thing please ping me. Dr vulpes(Talk)20:41, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An unsourced article about a Japanese pop group. Not to disparage Ribbon, but pop groups are a dime a dozen in Japan. No indication that WP:NBAND is satisfied. Yes, their single Little Date was used as the theme song for a single season of Ranma 1/2, but that would not do it on its own. No indications they charted any singles or otherwise satisfy NBAND. Safiel (talk) 20:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This ship, and three other articles I am also nominating, were all members of the cancelled Stevenson-class destroyers. That isn't inherently a problem for notability, but de facto these four articles are almost exactly the same and do not say anything of substance beyond the content in the Stevenson-class destroyer article. In fact, most of the paragraphs have been copy-pasted between all five articles. Therefore, all four ship articles should be redirected to the article on the entire class. In the unlikely event sources are found that show one or more ship could sustain its own article, at that time the relevant article(s) could be restored. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:01, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Some mentions of the firm [2], [3], neither of which is very extensive. Source 7 is the only one rated by Source Highlighter, yellow, so an iffy source. Oaktree b (talk) 20:27, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Typical pretensions of grandeur, founded on weak or non-existent material. The sources used and found are plain listings, such as this, advertorials such as this, titled “Get to know Snik, etc” with full support by the record distributor, a report about another artist, e.g. this, or some half-serious aside of a text in reference to sexism in music, e.g. this. The lack of mainstream sources is not an issue, as the artist’s field of music is mostly ignored there, but there is little of anything anywhere. YouTube "success" on its own does not hold water and the fact that the article was curated mostly by kamikaze accounts, such as this one, accounts does not help. -The Gnome (talk) 19:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article is heavily refbombed (just to make it difficult to judge the notability). On a closer look, I didn't find any in-depth reference. Due to COI concerns, I don't think it is possible to maintain such articles even if he is weak notable. Most of the references are sponsored and not acceptable per WP:RSNOI. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 19:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
×2 (muktokotha.com) appear to be from a minor news site (i.e not RS) which my Chrome browser is giving warnings against entering.
×1 (The Riyazu-s-salatin) appears to be about a different individual named Lodi Khan, who p.156 describes as being murdered during the reign of Akbar (d.1605) rather than living past 1612 as stated by the article.
Semi-advertorialized article about a filmmaker, not properly referencing any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for filmmakers. The attempted notability claim here is that his work exists, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself -- we would need to see some evidence of distinction, such as notable awards and/or WP:GNG-worthy coverage and analysis about him and his work in media and/or books. But this is referenced entirely to primary sources self-published by people or organizations directly affiliated with the statements they're referencing, which is not support for notability, and the article claims absolutely nothing about him that would be "inherently" notable without better sourcing for it than this. Further, there are no inbound links here from any other page in Wikipedia but the disambiguation page at Bob Connolly, and this appears to be a conflict of interest as the creator (who created it in 2013 and has occasionally returned to edit the article as recently as August 2024) appears to have self-identified as Bob Connolly in past posts to Talk:Lee Aaron, but even people who do properly pass our notability and sourcing standards still aren't entitled to write or curate their own articles themselves. Bearcat (talk) 19:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are plenty of sources out there, I added three RS to the existing sources but there's more, as a quick Google confirms. We're easily past WP:GNG before getting to NCORP here and I do note the previous AfD thanks to Left guide, which already demonstrated the company passed WP:GNG. I don't like people moaning about WP:BEFORE, so won't... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The page was created by the subject, in an extremely self-laudatory tone that has since partially been repaired.
The sources are also extremely poor. The subject's coverage in the sources is either A. Not significant (i.e. the National Post article that literally just has a single line about her, the Macleans article that has merely 3 sentences about her book, or the Edmonton Journal article that reviews many books and only mentions Murray's books for a few paragraphs) B. Not reliable (not editorially neutral as in the example of the U of T award announcements) C. Not secondary (i.e. the multiple databases linked) D. Independent of the subject (three of the sources are authored by the subject, including her personal website).
The only sources that remain are a couple of decades-old newspaper clippings that support only a few sentences of the article.
It is clear that there aren't sufficient sources to write a fleshed-out article about her, and the only reason the article exists at all is because it was created by the subject herself with virtually no sources. It is obvious that the article was written with first-hand knowledge, only for the sources to try and retroactively justify what was written, when in fact very little of what is written in the article is contained in the sources.
Keep. Unless anyone can prove the content of the article is completely fabricated, she's obviously going to pass our notability guidelines: she's in the Royal Society of Canada, she has the Order of Ontario, and she's written a pile of books. I can go digging for sources later, but this one is really, really clear on its face. -- asilvering (talk) 20:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It is true that this was a COI creation (autobiography) which is strongly frowned upon but not forbidden, however the subject is indeed notable, and the article should be retained because it has encyclopedic and historical value. I helped to clean up some of the more obvious indications of COI/AUTOBIO like puffery, and also some copyvios, close paraphrasing, and original research, however it was quite clear to me during clean up and in a BEFORE search that Murray is notable per WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ACADEMIC, and based on the awards and honors she has received, also meets WP:ANYBIO. The sourcing can be improved but that is not a reason to delete. Netherzone (talk) 21:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This one seems like a pretty obvious choice. You can't just go making a page for yourself just because you feel like it, especially to promote your own books. Ninjafusion (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Insufficient independent coverage in secondary sources to justify notability. Significant and in-depth secondary coverage is a requirement of GNG and this doesn't meet the bar. Coverage is either very shallow (i.e., only a couple sentences is wider article), primary, or clearly not neutral. Gbaby99 (talk) 03:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just to be clear as more discussion rolls in, I am not questioning her notability here. I am questioning the sources. No matter her awards or books, there are extremely few reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. There are essentially 3 book reviews plus a newspaper clipping that pass that bar. I tried re-writing the article only using the information in those articles, which can serve as an alternative to deletion, but it was rolled back pending this AfD. Andrew6111 (talk)
Local politician with no inherent notability. Only one reliable source cited; others are IMDB, a self-described blog, and something that cites wikipedia. — Moriwen (talk) 15:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weakest of keeps Ibay's membership in the Manila City Council has been mostly nondescript until recently. Elections are in May 2025, and this early, politicians are jockeying for positions. Ibay is a councilor representing the youth as the city president of the Manila Sangguniang Kabataan (youth council); normally, such councilors are the council's committee chairperson on youth and sports. However, she was unseated recently and this has caused controversy if that was even allowed. So her notability is on this WP:1E, but this is not the last time we'd see her as a politician. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: No clear consensus to keep. More input on notability is appreciated. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 18:11, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Another example of a well-written but ultimately non-notable article - young footballer who fails WP:GNG. Creator has been indef blocked for repeatedly creating non-notable articles. GiantSnowman14:33, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – The player may become notable in the medium term, but with the precedent of indiscriminate creation by a single contributor, deleting seems fair to me.. Svartner (talk) 18:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Biography of a person, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing Wikipedia inclusion criteria. As always, notability is not inherited, so people don't get Wikipedia articles just for being related to other people per se, and have to be the subject of a WP:GNG-worthy volume of reliable source coverage about them doing something noteworthy -- but being a family member of other people is the only notability claim on offer here, and the only footnote in the entire article is a genealogy of her husband on a Blogger blog, which is not a reliable or GNG-building source. Simply having been married to somebody is not "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have more substantive content, and better referencing for it, than this. Bearcat (talk) 17:29, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tagged unsourced for over a decade. Some articles already have a lot of cited info about their names for example Samsun so maybe we don’t need this list? Chidgk1 (talk) 17:03, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Died in combat around 20 years ago now, doesn't seem to have notability beyond any of other hundreds of deceased in wars since then. This was deleted in 2021, and recreated again. The sourcing now doesn't add much beyond what was there in 2021. Oaktree b (talk) 20:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The cited secondary sources, in addition to reliability concerns, do not contain significant enough coverage to make this topic notable. Web search does not turn up other usable sources. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH)15:27, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating per a request that I received by email by the subject of the article. We have here a local politician, mayor of a small town. He has received extensive coverage due to sexual assault allegations, and resigned under pressure. The coverage is basically a meet of the local politician wing of WP:NPOL, but there are surely some shades of WP:BLPGOSSIP and WP:BLP1E. I would be a weak keep in the absence of a request from the subject. We typically give a certain (small) amount of deference to the subjects of articles that request deletion, and this brings me to a weak delete. I do not think that an article on a short-time mayor of a small town is an essential article for Wikipedia, even in the presence of the allegations; while its presence is likely to take up a fair bit of editor time, without a corresponding payoff. (If kept, then I note that the "Accusations" section of the article could use a fair bit of streamlining per WP:PROSELINE.) Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't really see criminal notability; the mayor of a smaller town (under 25000) isn't an automatic pass. Most sources given seem rather salacious, attempting to paint a picture. "Mayor did or didn't get XYZ with the ladies", to be blunt, isn't terribly notable. Sounds like most of it is still unproven; he's not been found guilty. I'm not sure he would be notable even if he was guilty. Oaktree b (talk) 20:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep - Passes WP:RS. Reliable secondary sources are abundant and subject passes notability guidelines. Sourcing is abundant before and during/after allegations.
Strong keepOf course the subject of the article wants it deleted. It documents five allegations of sexual assault against him. He easily passes GNG per the sources Missvain linked above. The Newsweek article by a senior news editor is on its own a strong argument for keep.JSFarman (talk) 01:13, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Port_Harcourt#Education - The single news report indicates the correct name is Starlet Academy (no s). Searches find almost nothing under either name, but what I found confirms the source is wrong. Starlets is correct. Some false hits about some Starlets Academy awards (to do with film making) and this place [16]. Also a UK registered company are not this academy. Neither is a hit from Kenya. The single source is a local newspaper publishing through Wordpress, almost entirely quoting a speech. Reliability unclear, and primary and not independent. They have a (primary source) facebook page [17], and a website [18] but it won't open. Here is a version from the Way Back Machine: [19] which confirms some information, such as the founder and that it was founded in 1997. All primary/not independent, of course. The school did win an award for value, described here [20]. Although I have not investigated the independence of the awards, on the face of it that is genuine. But this is a private school. It needs to meet WP:NORG and we do not have the required WP:ORGDEPTH sources to write an article. It is usual, for non notable schools, to redirect them to the school district. The Port Harcourt page has a section on education, but there is some work needed there, unfortunately. Secondary schools are being redirected to a list of schools in Port Harcourt, but the inclusion criterion of that list suggests a school must have a page to be included (although there is an entry without a page). The inclusion criterion is wrong. All schools in Port Harcourt should be included without a requirement to create a stub that adds no value to the reader. But, in any case, the redirect target is the best place to include information about the schools in the area. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The claim to notability, playing 5 football matches in Hong Kong and some in the current third league of China, is weak. The sources are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 13:30, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While the webcomics that are part of the alliance are notable, the alliance itself doesn't appear to have received significant coverage in reliable sources; I was only able to find mentions. The article was previously kept at an AfD (well, VfD), but that was back in 2004 when standards were very different. toweli (talk) 10:47, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Besides a listing in the colofon of Webcomics (2005), I got nothing. The sources in the article aren't particularly reliable either, so there's nothing for us to say on Dumbrella I'm afraid. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Merge or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit13:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I don't find any coverage for this individual. An article about the funeral isn't helping notability, the others are more general, not really about this individual. Oaktree b (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:BLPFAMILY. Lots on her family background connections, but no indication she ever did anything notable herself. Even her so-called charitable work is focused on a family foundation that provides grants. — Maile (talk) 15:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - article seems well sourced, and several sources are in the late 2010s, some 40 years after the conflict itself, making a nonsense of the “no lasting coverage” claim… it’s… difficult not to see this as politically based spamming since the last couple of nominations on Indian-Bangladeshi border skirmishes from this same editor are just cut and paste, and they have nominated other similar articles last week too… I’ll assume good faith though, and just say that I disagree that the article meets the criteria for deletion based on the merits. Absurdum4242 (talk) 15:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It is a notable incident, Lasting effect? It did have some. Nxcrypto, I noticed that you are copying the same message in similar AfD Discussions, Without even checking the page and It's content and aftermath a lot. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Message)
True - The 1979 clash is very notable and it does not violate Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. Nxcrypto for some reason is copying and pasting the same message in multiple AfD Discussions, And some people will not check the page and just want to delete it, So they will say "It does not establish WP:GNG and WP:Lasting", Even when, It is clearly notable event with coverage many years later. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Message)
Citations - The page has several citations including from books and newspapers, some require subscription or have limited information but I think the page meets with General Notability Guidelines. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (Talk with BangladeshiEditorInSylhet)
I remain confused at how the three last-minute delete votes on the day this was set to close can claim a lack of “modern sources” when the Indian Foreign Policy book, for example, was first written in 2007, with the 7th edition being linked to being published in 2018. Add in the cut and paste nature of the original nomination and… as much as I hate to suggest everyone isn’t arguing in good faith, this feels like brigading?
@Absurdum4242: Notwithstanding how other participants have phrased it, WP:LASTING refers to lasting effects, not lasting coverage. The single 75-word paragraph in the book is lasting coverage, and distinguishes this event from some discussed at AfD recently which have none, but that paragraph's conclusion is telling: "forces of the two countries clashed but the tension soon cooled down." Nothing significant happened. No one was killed, injured, or taken prisoner; no territory, booty, or reparations changed hands; no new method of determining the border was adopted; no treaty was signed. The event was not a precedent or catalyst for anything. There were no lasting effects. The paragraph in the book suggests that the event may be worth a paragraph in an article more broadly focused on Bangladesh-India border relations. It is not suitable for a stand alone article. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, so the correct WP would be WP:Continuedcoverge instead, where “ The duration of coverage is a strong indicator of whether an event has passing or lasting significance.”? Absurdum4242 (talk) 04:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Participants are allowed one bolded !vote per discussion. If you wish to change your !vote, please strike out the old one. Thank you. Owen×☎11:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Appears to be a civil servant, not meeting notability requirements. Sourcing is there, but I'm not sure her gov't position makes her notable. Oaktree b (talk) 15:05, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: There are enough sources and coverage on web for the article to qualify WP:GNG (I did a quick search). As User:Oaktree b highlighted in their comment, government position has no affect on the outcome of AFD - I agree. But this article has met WP:RS criteria according to me. Macrobreed2 (talk) 10:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit11:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nasib Piriyev is a notable entrepreneur and business leader whose contributions have been recognized by multiple independent sources. He has significant projects in the fields of Energy, Lifestyle, Capital financing, Culture and Philanthropy, which have been covered by major national and international outlets, including Azertac,HELLO! Magazine, and The New York Times.
His ventures, including AzMeCo, Buta Arts Centre, and Woodford Finance, have had measurable impact on countries including Azerbaijan, United Kingdom and Malta, as reflected in multiple sources. Nasib has also linked to recognitions including the film awards emerged by SONUNCU (The Last One), the work he co-directed. 12eeWikiUser (talk) 17:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @ColinFine, in significant coverage I read that, the Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. From here, some sources meet this statement.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: It would be helpful if the sources brought into this discussion were evaluated. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!06:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The article reads like an advertisement. Maybe you should have tried G11 first. The sources do not meet WP:SIGCOV, and the subject fails to meet WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. The article includes the company’s products in a way that is entirely promotional. GrabUp - Talk06:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GrabUp I am a bit cautious with CSD nowadays, as I have made mistakes in the past and my NPP training is not yet over. It's better to put this page through AfD. Let's hope this page gets updated and qualifies for WP:HEYMAN. Charlie (talk) 07:49, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Revenue is not a criterion for notability. Per WP:ORG, arbitrary statistics and numbers (such as number of employees, amount of revenue or raised capital, age of the company, etc.) are irrelevant for notability. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I don't think revenue establishes notability for a corporation! It just seems like the article is based off promotion rather than information. 79lives (talk) 16:48, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and keep improving. Passes WP:NCORP and WP:GNG. As for the problems with WP:PROMO, it looks like a couple of editors have removed some of the puffery; more could be done but this can be done over the normal course of editing. Of the coverage already cited in the article, the best source is probably the Fortune India article titled "The Dairy Disruptors" which looks at Milky Mist's business alongside its competitors in the private dairy market, and examines the challenges they face in competing with the milk cooperatives. Turning to ProQuest, this 2024 Businessline article, "Inside Milky Mist's paneer revolution", takes an in-depth look at the company's business and quotes an independent analyst who points out the heavy debt that company is carrying, as well as risks including pricing pressures and variable raw material costs. Skipping over all the in-depth feature articles on Milky Mist that are gaga about the company, like "Milky Mist's winning formula to transform consumer behaviour" in The Economic Times, we can still find other independent reports about Milky Mist's activities, such as this 2018 article about the cooperative Amul, which was being audited after allegations of financial impropriety, including deals it cut with Milky Mist. Cielquiparle (talk) 15:58, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify or delete if not improved: The article is extremely sparse at present and everything there is already covered in other articles. But the historical-cultural idea of "northwest India" (as opposed to specifically the Indus Valley, Punjab, etc.) does seem to have some scholarly attention, at least from outsiders: [21], [22]. If the article weren't fairly new, I would be a firm delete, but I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt for now. But the article as it is isn't ready for mainspace.WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As the author of the article, I don't have much to add to it or to voice on its fate. Some options might be to merge the contents into Northwestern South Asia, to redirect to Northwest India#Ancient era, or if seen as necessary, to create a new article called 'Northwestern Indian subcontinent' and then include the post-1947 history of the region as well into that article. GreekApple123 (talk) 16:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Delete, draftify, merge, redirect? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit11:07, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. The sources and material are essentially all resume/CV type factoids. Previously deleted as an AFD result at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gene Hallman. The closest possibilities for SNG are some local specialized awards which have been put into the lead. North8000 (talk) 14:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: I'm unsure why the article was revived after being deleted? Sole editor discloses that they are paid for their contributions to the article by the founded companies. The companies themselves do not have any notable pages. pluckyporo(talk • contribs)07:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This is a WP:HOAX. I have expertise in the subcontinental history of the first millennium and have never heard of such a "dynasty"; additionally, neither Reference 1, which is a Russian translation of Bosworth's Handbook, evidences any such dynasty nor does Reference 2. TrangaBellam (talk) 10:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Had a brief professional career but the article only presents database sources, which don't comply with WP:SPORTBASIC. I found an article about him in Kooora, but it does nothing more than just regurgitate a quote from him. Stad Doha is just routine match coverage and Al-Sharq is a passing mention followed by a squad listing. Spiderone(Talk to Spider)08:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Despite their inclusion in reliable sources, I don't think all of the listed podcasts can be objectively considered "travel podcasts" rather than podcasts about history and culture. For example, The Bitter Southerner is not about travel. It turns out that this particular podcast does involve travel. Also, it might be fine to have "travel podcasts" that are not "podcasts about traveling". Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is your deletion rationale that the list is not notable then? This list could pass WP:NLIST independently of whether Travel podcast passes WP:N. It's also worth noting that WP:LISTCRIT states that While notability is often a criterion for inclusion in overview lists of a broad subject, it may be too stringent for narrower lists. So not all entries in the list have to be notable and notability does not have to be the criteria for inclusion. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The library in Spotify/Overcast/Apple is pretty massive. If they're not notable they shouldn't be listed. But even some of the bluelinks are radio shows or authors, so I don't think this is really feasible. All of these lists of podcasts are problematic, simply listing a fraction of those available to listen to with no clear inclusion criteria. Reywas92Talk03:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists, which says, "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list." I will show below that "travel podcasts" has been treated as "a group or set by independent reliable sources".
The sources I listed here are copied from the article's references. The list's inclusion criteria is clear: A travel podcast should be included in this list only when it has been called a "travel podcast" by an independent reliable source.
Note: At the time of nomination, the article was partially hijacked to be about someone from Nigeria rather than the actual Indian subject. I get the impression that the nominator is challenging the notability of the correct subject as well (even that has been tagged as promotional since 2022), but I wanted to note the even-more-promotional hijacking — which I have reverted — that might have prompted the AfD. (I have no opinion or further comment.) WCQuidditch☎✎07:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep book length biographies of the subject (eg M. S. Gore "Vitthal Ramji Shinde, an Assessment of His Contributions" Tata Institute of Social Sciences, 1990). AGF regarding the nomination; "hijacking" explanation seems plausible. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is an Unipessoal Lda that's on the FT1000 list of fastest growing companies... as rank 727. Outside of those WP:ORGTRIV awards in that section, there is essentially zero coverage of the company. I'd almost A7 it. Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:42, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This article is another installment of a WP:WALLEDGARDEN on the Jhala family created by a now-blocked sockmaster. (See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harpal Dev Makwana for an example of a deleted article in this set and Jhala (clan) for an appropriately sourced version not created by a sockmaster. The core sources for these articles are books of purported genealogy published by Jhala family descendants. This article takes a legendary genealogy and launders the sources to present it as history:
Naravane's The Rajputs of Rajputana has a single paragraph describing the Jhalas as a "minor clan."
Singhji's The Rajputs of Saurashtra discusses the Jhala Rajputs but says of the earlier stories, "Bardic tales about their migrations from the Himalayan region to Sindh seem to contain little truth."
In short, what WP:SIGCOV we have on the Jhala dynasty includes legend repeated by WP:SPS and WP:COI sources. The independent coverage, such as it is, does not establish facts about this dynasty as presented in the article. With an adequately sourced article on the Jhala (clan) I think the best approach to this compromised article is WP:TNT. Bottom line: Fails WP:V and WP:GNG for lack of SIGCOV in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 05:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Looking at the article page, it does not seem to contain any far-fetched claims except the Origin section which should be renamed to 'Origin legend' or clarified that it is a traditional legend.
Also, the argument for unreliabity of the source Genealogy, Archive, Image: Interpreting Dynastic History in Western India being that the co-author is a Jhala doesn't seem valid considering that there are probably a million of Jhala people and shouldn't make them ineligible to write on the subject. Both the authors are also scholars in anthropolgy with Jhala having served as the Professor of Anthropology at Temple University as per the linked press release.
I do believe more context can be added regarding the tradtional sources the authors have used. But deleting the article would be an extreme step. The subject is very much notable. Many later kingdoms, states and principalities claimed descent from the members of this dynasty. Thank you. Krayon95 (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with Genealogy, Archive, Image isn’t only that it’s written by Jhalas. It’s that one of the authors claims to be the head of the dynasty (see link above) and the book is an effort to launder legends into a historical account. The other reliable sources to discuss the Jhalas do not do this, as I noted above. The appropriately sourced Jhala (clan) article covers this ground without retailing legends as facts. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't meet WP:GNG. I would have possibly declined for the second time, but it does appear that the creator has made up their mind that she ranks the 6th in an unknown women category of a chess competition. The subject has participated in non notable competition, and has appeared in few sources, but there aren't WP:SIGCOV. Safari ScribeEdits!Talk!04:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. Non-notable chess player who played in non-nontable tournaments and has not made a significant and substantial achievement nationally or internationally worthy of notice to warrant a page on. Fails WP:NBIO, WP:SPORTCRIT, WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 21:32, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. OP's acceptance of the AfC draft only to nominate it for deletion a minute later makes me concerned something WP:POINTy is going on. AfD does not exist to be used as a tool for making some kind of point to another editor. It's a process that costs a lot of time. If OP thought the topic was not notable, then OP should've saved us all the trouble by not accepting the submission at AfC. In any event, the topic apparently had one of the most sensational results in chess history, and there's multiple sources covering Sarayu, including in the context of that apparently landmark and sensational showing: [26][27]. The particular competition's prominence might not personally impress OP (or at least, OP since a minute after accepting the article at AfC), but it apparently impressed people who observe and write about chess. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 08:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per Hydrangeans. Also she was ranked 27th in the world among women and 2nd among girls at her peak rating of 2444, and is still comfortably among the top 100 women and top 10 girls. Sounds pretty notable to me. Bubka42 (talk) 22:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify As I stated before I did say I wanted to keep, considering Hydrangeans reasoning was valid enough. But now due to the comment from RangerBus the matter of WP:BLP1E is significant considering how her importance did rise up until the tournament.
Comment. I did some more research out of the sources on the page and still I do not find her being notable as of yet. Per chess.com, the number one reliable website with all informations and ratings, the subject as of Oct 5, 2024, ranks #2297 in world ranking and #42 among under 20 aged ranking in India. She was rather unknown but became recognized by her performance at tournament Pontevedra Open in Spain in 2023. WP:BLP1E. Though she didn't win, she came in 2nd. But I do not see that she participated in same tournament again in 2024 or any other well known major national or international tournament where she got significant coverage. She doesn't hold the title of IM (International Master) or GM (Grand Master) like other under 20 aged players in India and world. Notability is a strong problem with this subject. Maybe it is too early. RangersRus (talk) 14:31, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am changing my decision! I feel like now we should draftify considering the point for Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, if she does come up in more tournaments and is considered better for her performance after a few of them then she can be put on an article perhaps.
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Keep - I don't see how this is a case of NOTCRYSTAL? It's an article about an election that is scheduled and expected to happen and has non-trivial and verifiable information. Bluepotato81 (talk) 09:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It actually has no real information about the election. We don't even know if those councillors in the infobox will be contesting the election. AusLondonder (talk) 21:39, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: More explanation and policy consideration in the comments would help. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DoczillaOhhhhhh, no!05:30, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Staggering lack of sources -- all coverage is from the local government, which is obviously not independent. The lone non-government source makes no mention of this election. This is undeniably a case of CRYSTAL, and I question whether this election will ever be notable considering the articles on previous years are sourced to the city council itself and one local newspaper (failing GNG and SUSTAINED). JoelleJay (talk) 23:42, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of primary sources in the scientific literature do not show this topic meets WP:GNG, nor does it demonstrate that the topic merits a named reaction after the corresponding author. The current content is likely inaccessible to most readers. There may be some content that could be merged into β-Lactam#Synthesis. Mdewman6 (talk) 21:03, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:OR. The only two sources are obscure papers written by the person for whom the process is named. This is borderline original research - akin to synthesis. We just don’t do that here. Bearian (talk) 08:58, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be a good idea to increase the golf club articles on wikipedia so they match other sports like football? I know this is not the most notible example but it is the club I know most about. LeonKnight (talk) 19:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Multiple references (already found on the article) are stating that he is claiming to be the current head of the FLDS church, I will hunt down some more sources. Thief-River-Faller (talk) 12:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify -- I feel like draftifying this until further notability is presented later on is suitable, considering he is the son of a cult leader so there is probably something likely to come up in the future and if these sources are presented by User:Thief-River-Faller then we could improve on the article. 79lives (talk) 17:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable corporation that fails GNG (no inherited notability from a product to it's designer), what little coverage exists is routine coverage of corporate changes and going bankrupt. Suggest redirect & merge of relevant content to Confrontation (Rackham), their most popular game. Macktheknifeau (talk) 23:28, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I have found several relevant sources that talk about the company's beginnings, and its production numbers at peak operation, before the slide into insolvency began. I've also rewritten the article to make it a bit more coherent. Guinness323 (talk) 02:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You are aware this needs to be considered under WP:NCORP? That means we need sources that meet WP:CORPDEPTH, which says Deep or significant coverage provides an overview, description, commentary, survey, study, discussion, analysis, or evaluation of the product, company, or organization. Such coverage provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements, and makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization. All references must meet WP:SIRS. Nothing on the article seems to meet that. Are we able to find anything better? This is not my !vote as I have not yet conducted my own searches, but we will need more than this. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to a lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, which questions its notability. If the available references are mostly self-published or promotional, it further supports the case for deletion.--Jiaoriballisse (talk) 14:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Confrontation (Rackham): All the sources used in the article are routine coverage concerning acquisitions, insolvency, etc. Conducting a search I couldn't find any reliable sources, which are independent of the subject and which are secondary and cover the company in depth and in detail. That is it appears to fail WP:NCORPTarnishedPathtalk03:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Finnish names for random places around the world are not encyclopedic; however, Finnish names for parts of Russia that used to be a part of Finland are encyclopedic, and the same might pertain to Sweden and Norway - Finns/Kven are a recognized minority in Norway and some places in Norway e.g. Porsanger have official Finnish names. Indeed, there is a Finnish exonyms for places in Norway. Perhaps there also should be a Finnish exonyms for places in Russia, and maybe Sweden, and this main Finnish exonyms page be an index for those two/three. Remove the rest. Geschichte (talk) 06:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It is reasonable to cull exonyms that are simply a matter of spelling rules (in effect, a transliteration). But the rest are useful. There has been an attempted stealth cull of these pages. There should have been an announcement at least on Talk:Endonym and exonym.OsFish (talk) 05:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. There are some good sources discussing Finnish exonyms here:
Trim: A few names in the list are evidently not cognate to the respective endonyms, and I'd preserve these. Otherwise, delete as trivial; each language adapts foreign words to its own phonology and orthography, okay, we get it. —Tamfang (talk) 23:57, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are no independent RS that provide direct and in-depth secondary coverage of this person. Hell, even the non-independent coverage are mostly trivial mentions that barely has their name appear a few times, interviews being a bit of an exception. I think the only CCS would be the "Senior Fellow in Entrepreneurship" but I find it rather dubious that anybody would seriously claim that's an actual academic position given what the about page says. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:49, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:subject has significant coverage including East Anglian Daily Times, New York Times and the Guardian here to meet WP:GNG for their notabilityTesleemah (talk) 05:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are the first three sources considered "reliable sources" by WikiProject Football? I am honestly bewildered at the suggestion. Is there a list of these somewhere? Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tesleemah At the moment, there are no reliable sources on Google News that covers him significantly, and independently. You are welcome to update the page and make it qualify as per WP:HEYMAN. But, please avoid using interviews or self-quotations. Charlie (talk) 07:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The book's page should be deleted as it fails to meet the notability guidelines for books, which require significant, independent coverage. The primary reviews cited to establish the book's notability are compromised due to conflicts of interest: one reviewer, a former brand custodian of a NASSCOM-affiliated company, currently advises on brand reputation to various IT companies in India as declared in the review's byline and actively promotes this book across social media as a part of its portfolio work, while the other is openly declaring himself as a personal friend of the author in the byline, making both reviews biased and unreliable. Furthermore, the remaining coverage consists only of trivial mentions and promotional excerpts, lacking substantial, independent analysis. As such, the book does not meet the criteria for a standalone Wikipedia article. Charlie (talk) 04:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article needs complete rewrite for sure. But I have added urls of 2 independent reviews. Reception section can be rewritten from it. - Nizil (talk) 06:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Quite obviously it meets WP:NLIST (see e.g. [33], [34], [35]) and the fact that we have articles on subsets of these objects does not mean it is 'redundant', no more than a list of countries is redundant by the fact we have articles on the individual countries.--cyclopiaspeak!16:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to Cerdeño and Ginsburg in 1988, the name Palaeotapirus was invalidated by Depéret in 1904 because the fossils were more closely related to those of Chasmotherium (not a tapirid), and he replaced the genus name for "Tapirus" helveticus with Paratapirus. While this should sound like an easy redirect, the issue is that there seems to be one later-described species Palaeotapirus xiejiaheensis that may still be pending a reassessment. Also, on a side note, "Palaeotapirus yagii" was reclassified to the new genus Plesiotapirus. Whether or not the page should be kept, renamed, or redirected on the basis of one species pending a reassessment is worth discussing. PrimalMustelid (talk) 00:17, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ideally merge somewhere. This is an interesting piece of historical trivia that, while insufficient to support an article on its own, should be kept in the encyclopedia precisely for the purpose of preventing a reader who sees this word "in the wild" from continuing down a dead end of searching for meaning. BD2412T01:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]